Heald is a revolutionary. Not in the sense of Lenin or Guevara,
though, because the revolution Daryl seeks is an internal one. As
the president of Generous Giving, Inc., Daryl works to help usher
in what he calls a "revolution of generosity" in the Christian world.
Such a movement appears painfully necessary; the Barna Research Group
reports that evangelical Christians gave 2.5 percent of their income
to charitable organizations in 2000 - a figure well below the 10 percent
tithe often used as a biblical benchmark for giving. Generous Giving
- an offshoot of the Maclellan Foundation, a Christian charitable
organization - helps Christians understand true biblical teaching
about financial stewardship and the privilege of helping fund the
advancement of God's Kingdom on earth. Daryl lives in Lookout Mountain,
Ga., with his wife, Cathy, and their five children.
||Q: How did stewardship become your
A: I grew up in a missionary home.
I watched my parents raise funds in order for them to work full
time with The Navigators. I remember times when there was no money
in the bank, so we would pray, and a gift would come in. Then I
met my wife, who's from the Maclellan family. Before then I didn't
even know what a foundation was. I began to realize that there were
people like the Maclellans who had been blessed with great wealth.
So I've seen both sides of the giving equation - the receiving side
and the giving side. That experience is a big part of God's calling
Generous Giving itself has emanated from the Maclellan Foundation's
discovery that there's incredible wealth in evangelical hands, and
that God has poised His Church for explosive, exponential growth
worldwide. Coming from a Reformed perspective, we know this is not
by accident. Where He has His Church poised, He has also orchestrated
wealth creation so we can be faithful to help advance His Kingdom.
So we expect a revolution of generosity like never seen before -
not because of what we're doing, but because of what God is doing.
Q: How would you describe your theology of stewardship?
A: There are two sides to the giving
coin. Most of us understand the law perspective - we're commanded
to give. But many don't understand the other side: the grace perspective.
Our slogan at Generous Giving is "Experience the Joy,"
and people often tell us, "I'm giving, but I can't say I'm
experiencing joy with it."
Part of the fruit of giving should be joy; if you're not experiencing
that, you have to ask yourself, "Are you really giving?"
For true biblical giving, our heart has to be in the right place.
Second Corinthians 9 tells us that God loves a cheerful giver, not
one who gives grudgingly. Often we mistakenly think that just because
we're putting money in the offering plate or writing a check to
some ministry, we're actually giving.
When I talk to people about giving, there's a box that most people
have drawn. Usually that box is called the 10 percent - it's all
about the tithe - in other words, the law side. But tithing is only
one aspect of giving; once we understand that it's not about the
10 percent but about the 100 percent, then there's a much better
conversation about the other 90 percent.
Q: What are some other misconceptions about
A: For one, that it's easier to give
it than to make it. Andrew Carnegie addressed this in the early
1900s, and many others recently, including Bill Gates and Ted Turner,
have been quoted as saying that it's a lot harder to give it and
to give it well.
Because the Foundation is officially "asked" several
thousand times a year for funds by various ministries, we often
hear this disclaimer from those asking: "Well, I don't want
to ask for myself." And therein lies a big misconception about
asking for ministry funds: If you think you're asking for yourself,
you're thinking too small. The larger context is that if you are
following the Lord's calling, are you really asking for yourself?
No, you're asking on behalf of God, for His Kingdom, not your work.
As Paul told the Philippians, "Not that I am looking for a
gift, but I am looking for what may be credited to your account"
[4: 17]. Unfortunately, many pastors and Christian workers feel
a tension - "Oh no, here comes the ask"- instead of seeing
it as a Kingdom-investment opportunity for God's people. And if
the receiver has the freedom to simply present the opportunity where
God has called them, then the giver has the freedom to be obedient
to give. Or if they're not called to give, that's fine too, because
it's all His - it's at His discretion.
Q: How would you evaluate the condition of the
Body of Christ when it comes to giving?
A: When you
look at the raw numbers, I wouldn't call it giving - I call it tipping.
We have perpetuated a culture of tipping by the way we ask and the
way we respond. We perpetuate this culture when the only time we
talk about giving is when we need something. We've created a response
in givers where they ask, "How much do I have to give this
person for him not to feel bummed out and to feel OK about me?"
instead of asking, "Lord, what do I need to do to help advance
People need to understand the full truth of why God says to give.
Many people don't understand why they give in the first place. You
might think, "Isn't that a rhetorical question? I'm a Christian;
I've got to give, don't I?" Well, yes, you're commanded to
give. Yet when you look at the statistics, there's no other way
around it - people are not giving like they should. And I contend
that it's because people have not dealt with the heart issue.
If you believe what Jesus says is true, what leads - your heart
or your treasure? Most fund developers would say the heart - if
you get someone's heart, you'll get their pocketbook. But that's
not what Jesus said. He said, "Where your treasure is, there
your heart will be also. Therefore, lay up treasure in heaven."
Your treasure leads, and your heart follows. When you give with
an eternal attitude, you won't be enamored with what's temporal,
but instead have more expectancy toward eternity. It will be more
of a spiritual discipline and less an obligation.
Q: How do you encourage the mindset that giving
isn't just a concern of wealthy people?
A: As I mentioned earlier, I've been
on both sides of the fence. I've sat there at the dining-room table
when my father said, "We have nothing in the bank." Now
I'm in a family with financial margin. But I've seen from both sides
the same joyful approach to giving. The principles are true regardless
of how much you make. In the Bible, King David's estimated $30 billion
gift to the temple is at one end of the spectrum, and the widow's
mite is at the other end. But they were both commended as generous,
Consider the Macedonians. They were slaves. But they not only gave
generously, but in Kingdom math, which belies the tangible laws
of nature, Scripture says they even gave beyond their ability. Because
of their heart response to the Lord, they urgently pleaded for the
opportunity to give. In effect they said, "Paul, you've got
to ask us. Don't just ask the Corinthians. Give us a chance to give."
Why? Because they recognized that Paul wasn't asking for his own
sake but for theirs. The Macedonians acted out of recognition of
who they were in Christ. Giving is a discipleship issue.
Q: How do we effectively model generous giving
without making it a show?
A: This brings up another misconception:
Most people wrongly interpret Matthew 6, where Jesus says, "Don't
let the left hand know what the right hand is doing." For example,
what's our evangelical terminology for people with extraordinary
prayer lives? We call them prayer warriors. Likewise, how many "giving
warriors" do you know? When we publicly acknowledge those who
excel in prayer, is it wrong, then, to lift up someone excelling
in giving for the glory of Christ? I say it's a sin not to edify
the body of Christ on this issue.
I've been the Stewardship Chairman for the last two years at Lookout
Mountain Presbyterian Church, which most people would classify as
a wealthy church. Now in most churches, who gets put up front to
talk about giving? The wealthiest people. But I've done something
totally different. All the testimonies on giving have come from
college students, single moms, elderly couples, widowers, etc. There
isn't one wealthy, professional business type up there.
Everyone has the privilege of giving, just as we all have the privilege
of prayer. From the widow's mite to David's $30 billion gift, we
all need to understand that giving is part of who we are in Christ,
that it's a major character-istic of who God is, and that when we
give it's for our sake. .
To learn more about the work of Generous Giving, visit rq.generousgiving.org
or call 423.755.2399.